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Braes of the Carse Conservation Group feedback on new Carse speed limits


In response to the draft plan by PKC to extend and introduce speed restrictions in several villages in the Carse area north of the A90, the Braes of the Carse Conservation Group (BCCG) invited its members, and the wider public via Facebook and community mailing lists, to respond to an online questionnaire seeking views and proposals.

The feedback yielded views on more items than speed limits and provides a valuable insight into the many road and traffic issues which are of interest and concern to the residents covered by the survey, which broadly extends from Knapp in the east through to Pitroddie in the west of the Carse.


The following is a summary of the points raised by respondents. Full details have been sent to our local councillors (which includes Angus Forbes, convenor of the environment and infrastructure committee for PKC), for their attention and consideration in managing this beautiful area of rural Perthshire which is appreciated by many; not only those living on the Braes of the Carse and those living in the villages to the south of the A90, but also the many walkers, runners and cyclists that come from Perth and Dundee.


BCCG summary of speed limit zone consultation


The draft speed limit plan has implications for Abernyte, Rait, Craigdallie, Ballindean, Pitroddie and Kilspindie. There were 42 respondents in total representing most of the villages concerned as well as others from nearby villages. It is therefore hoped that this be given serious consideration by our local councillors and the PKC traffic authority during and after the current 18 month trial. Suggestions were overall positive: 23 respondents supported the new PKC proposals, 22 proposed amendments and 3 opposed the proposals. Note, some respondents combined amendments with support or opposition; one respondent wholly opposed the proposals.

Main points raised:

  1. Many Carse residents have identified areas which have serious traffic issues, but these are not included in the current proposals, whilst several hamlets in the Carse do not have any speed limits and are not included in the current strategic proposal; this should be given consideration.
  2. Many residents felt that there is already excess speed signage in some areas which is unsightly and numerous speed limits may be confusing to some motorists. In some villages, existing duplicate speed signage should be removed as the new zones come into operation.
  3. Where there are currently flashing 20 mph signs for schools, these should be replaced with live vehicle access speed signs to help enforce the wider 20 mph zones.
  4. Consideration should be given to several 20 mph limits being extended further in certain situations.
  5. There were numerous recommendations for 40 mph or 30 mph limits throughout the Carse with other sections reduced to 20 mph.
  6. With the Carse becoming an increasingly important asset for recreation, some respondents felt that 20 and 30 mph zones should be the norm on most roads while others felt that an extension of the 40 mph limits would enhance the quality of living in the Carse and provide increased safety for cyclists, walkers, and runners.
  7. Several respondents felt that speeding cyclists were often more of a danger to other road users than motorised vehicles, especially when riding 2 or 3 abreast around corners. Cyclists should be encouraged to use bells when approaching pedestrians. Consideration should be given to approaching cycling clubs to draw their attention to this issue.
  8. There is some concern that reducing speed limits in some areas may result in higher road speeds on other nearby roads.
  9. Concern was also raised about the current speed limits not being enforced by the Police and consequently being widely ignored.
  10. Some respondents felt that large agricultural machinery is increasingly becoming a significant collision hazard at certain times of the year as well as causing considerable damage to the road margins and verges.
  11. More formal passing places are needed in some areas to reduce damage to the road margins and their verges.
  12. The proposed speed restrictions may help to discourage trunk road traffic from using rat runs once the Cross Tay Link Road (CTLR) is operational.

The Braes of the Carse Conservation Group has around 100 members who live or work in the area. If preserving the character of villages and conservation of wildlife and flora in this area is of concern or interest to you, then you are very welcome to join us. From time to time, we also support talks from experts on these subjects, and support grant applications.